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Post by akent on Dec 23, 2009 11:15:43 GMT -6
Tip: r/c it's not a good idea to attempt a loop until you get a good feel for the reponse in idle up inverted. It's more complicated than a plane where all you need to do is hold the elevator in the up position until you've completed 90% of the maneuver. The first thing I suggest you learn is a roll where you'll use the negative pitch inverted. Do this on a calm day. Do this with the tail facing you so you can judge the position of the heli and anticipate where you need to make throttle and aileron changes. Practice a lot on a sim if you can. Have plenty of altitude; 60ft or so. Make sure you're in idle up first. With the throttle at about a positive 70-75%, FFF; Start the roll by reducing positive throttle to 20-30% and giving 100% right aileron. As it goes over inverted add about 20-30% negative pitch while holding the aileron and as she goes back over bring the aileron back to 0% and throttle back to a positive 70-75%. You won't need to add any other inputs on rudder or elevator. Tip: it's really easy to accidentally add rudder and/or elevator when you're first learning, so you'll want to do alot of dry runs to make sure you're not unconciously pushing the sticks. 10 degrees should work well for you. The wooden blades will allow you to do 3D, but the stiffer CF give you a lot more "traction" and tighter aerobatics. Good luck. ;D Happy landings 19k, this was very well written and is very good advice!! It would be nice to have somewhere to put this kind of info. Kent |
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Post by Solitaire on Dec 23, 2009 20:59:42 GMT -6
Hmmm, not a bad idea, Kent. Maybe we can setup a section for the various maneuvres. I don't think I've seen comprehensive point by point directions on 3D maneuvres on any of the forums. Not that I've looked that hard.  This could also open it up for discussion where others can add their own personal tips and tricks for accomplishing a particular maneuvre. I like it. |
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Post by 19000rpm on Dec 24, 2009 7:59:37 GMT -6
Good plan r/c. I think it's important to learn to have complete control in all directions in normal mode and then learn to fly in idle up before you try any inverted maneuvers.
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Post by 19000rpm on Dec 24, 2009 8:22:39 GMT -6
Tip: r/c it's not a good idea to attempt a loop until you get a good feel for the reponse in idle up inverted. It's more complicated than a plane where all you need to do is hold the elevator in the up position until you've completed 90% of the maneuver. The first thing I suggest you learn is a roll where you'll use the negative pitch inverted. Do this on a calm day. Do this with the tail facing you so you can judge the position of the heli and anticipate where you need to make throttle and aileron changes. Practice a lot on a sim if you can. Have plenty of altitude; 60ft or so. Make sure you're in idle up first. With the throttle at about a positive 70-75%, FFF; Start the roll by reducing positive throttle to 20-30% and giving 100% right aileron. As it goes over inverted add about 20-30% negative pitch while holding the aileron and as she goes back over bring the aileron back to 0% and throttle back to a positive 70-75%. You won't need to add any other inputs on rudder or elevator. Tip: it's really easy to accidentally add rudder and/or elevator when you're first learning, so you'll want to do alot of dry runs to make sure you're not unconciously pushing the sticks. 10 degrees should work well for you. The wooden blades will allow you to do 3D, but the stiffer CF give you a lot more "traction" and tighter aerobatics. Good luck. ;D Happy landings 19k, this was very well written and is very good advice!! It would be nice to have somewhere to put this kind of info. Kent Thanks kent. |
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Post by r/c basher on Dec 24, 2009 8:59:31 GMT -6
That sounds like a great idea to have a section dedicated to 3d maneuvres.
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Post by Dave on Dec 24, 2009 15:14:53 GMT -6
And what would you like it called Could put it in the info section.
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Post by r/c basher on Dec 28, 2009 9:27:54 GMT -6
And what would you like it called Could put it in the info section. Dave I dont know its up to everyone else. |
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Post by Dave on Dec 28, 2009 17:56:15 GMT -6
Maybe it should go in the info area and have a subject like: Basic Flying Tips For Beginners....or something to that effect. What do you guys think  Dave |
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Post by 19000rpm on Dec 29, 2009 8:51:52 GMT -6
I'd think we'd want to have a section similar to the dedicated threads.
"Flying Tips"
Coaxials
Fixed pitch
Basic CP
3D
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