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Post by mightyxxwhitey on Mar 20, 2009 12:11:37 GMT -6
I got all my batteries charged, and went to the park. I was determined to hover my heli for more then 10 sec. Got it to hover for almost 10 sec before it started to drift away form me. I tried to let it down easy. The tranning gear stuck into the ground like a spike and the heli flipped over. It wasnt that hard of a flip. started it back up and it was shaking like crazy. A broken rotor core head. Getting frustrated!!!!!!!!!!! But im still going to keep at it. ;D ;D I just need more practice.
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Post by BTCat on Mar 20, 2009 12:23:29 GMT -6
Best advise I got was, after you are comfortable with stick control, take the training gear off and try again. I think ranben talked me into that. Preferably indoors or wind free. It worked wonders for my hovering, but it took a while to talk myself into it.
Another piece of good advise, if you aren't already doing it, chop the throttle to zero when the crash is inevidable. I break rotor cores occasionally, but mostly when I don't get the throttle to zero in time.
Another day in the air will cure the frustration. Hope you have the spare parts. How long have you been flying?
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Post by mightyxxwhitey on Mar 20, 2009 15:22:17 GMT -6
I have spares, and I do power down right before all my crashes. It really helps. I havent really broke many parts. (knock knock) But I still need the training gear on. Most of the time it will float about 5" up drifting really fast. When I power down it will skid on the gear about 2-3' to a stop. Getting better tho.
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Post by BTCat on Mar 20, 2009 15:28:47 GMT -6
I have spares, and I do power down right before all my crashes. It really helps. I havent really broke many parts. (knock knock) But I still need the training gear on. Most of the time it will float about 5" up drifting really fast. When I power down it will skid on the gear about 2-3' to a stop. Getting better tho. Another thing I had to get used to was throttle up pretty quickly on take off. These HBs are bad about wanting to roll over on take off.
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Post by ranben on Mar 20, 2009 17:22:16 GMT -6
MXW (your name is too long),
If you can hover, get rid of the training gear. You wont regret it. I will fly so much easier. Also, once you get use to flying without the training gear, try moving your flybar weights in about half way. With these two things you will be flying a different heli.
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Post by lowbudget on Mar 20, 2009 19:48:32 GMT -6
are you trying to hover 5 inches off the floor ? - does that cause the heli to re consume its own air by bouncing off of the floor right back into the rotors in a circular motion ? = VIC
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Post by BTCat on Mar 20, 2009 20:08:25 GMT -6
MXW (your name is too long), If you can hover, get rid of the training gear. You wont regret it. I will fly so much easier. Also, once you get use to flying without the training gear, try moving your flybar weights in about half way. With these two things you will be flying a different heli. Yep, I was certain it was you that first talked me into doing that. Get all you "R" people mixed up. You all look the same to me ;D Really, MXW, get where you can hover 2 to 3 feet up, even if it wanders around an area of 10 sq feet. If you can hold that for 30 seconds or so, you can take the gear off and you will find you can hover a lot better than you ever thought before. Damage from my crashes after taking the gear off was about the same or less than before. I do have the Superskids to help with the hard landings, though.
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Post by mightyxxwhitey on Mar 21, 2009 9:28:47 GMT -6
Im trying to hover a lot higher. When I do hover for a few sec, it about 3' up. Just trying to get it that high under some control is tricky. Thats why is stays so low. I cant control it most of the time to get it that high. Im not giving up tho. ;D On a good note. I have noticed I have been getting better. Baby steps
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Post by BTCat on Mar 21, 2009 9:52:47 GMT -6
Im trying to hover a lot higher. When I do hover for a few sec, it about 3' up. Just trying to get it that high under some control is tricky. Thats why is stays so low. I cant control it most of the time to get it that high. Im not giving up tho. ;D On a good note. I have noticed I have been getting better. Baby steps I usually pop of the ground pretty quickly by giving it a little right aileron and a slight bit of back elevator (right stick slightly back and to the right at about 4 o'clock). I put my throttle around 1/2 and then adjust it down a little once it pops off the ground. Until I started being a little more aggresive on take off, I would roll or scoot on take off and have things all out of whack when I got in the air. I pretty much had to have tail in when I lifted off or I would loose coordination and crash. It took me forever to learn to hover a little bit. But after that, it progressed very quickly. Not so much on the nose in. I crash every time, but I can tail in all over the place and side in most of the time. If the wind is calm, I can really get in trouble. I would have to look at my old posts to remember for sure, but I believe it was only about 3 weeks ago when I was hovering for maybe 30 seconds to a minute at a time. You are right about the baby steps. Seems like it is forever to learn to hover, then you are all over the place in no time. Then it is forever to learn to nose in.....
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Post by mightyxxwhitey on Mar 21, 2009 12:56:13 GMT -6
I tried to just throttle it up to get some hight, but almost every time I do that, it drifts away forward, or to the side. ;D I just need to try it on a better clam day. ;D
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Post by akphill on Mar 21, 2009 13:03:20 GMT -6
Talking about baby steps that is what I'm relearning and then i remembered for nose in or tail in or side to side that when i was first learning when dirt was young the theory was that when you took your copter on training gear up to where it was moving balls still on ground you are actually hovering the copter still its not as exciting as being three feet in the air but is the same thing as. Good place to learn nose in side to side untill you get used to it. just my thought's
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Post by mightyxxwhitey on Mar 22, 2009 16:33:38 GMT -6
Had a kinda good fly day. Slight breeze but not bad. So I took out the falcon and just attempted to keep it in a parking spot. I throttled it up just enough to keep it light on the skids. I used up 2 batteries and the whole time kept it in the parking spot. It started to get really windy so I had to stop. But from the 1st battery to the 2nd. There was was improvement. It was easier to keep it in the parking spot on the 2nd battery. WOOT WOOT!!! ;D
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