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Post by coffinsnail on Apr 21, 2009 23:45:03 GMT -6
hey guys just wondering when i finally get into 6ch i would like to get into a 400 or bigger heli, so im curious do you think the Trex is a good heli, or is there others just as good for a bit less? Mainly i have noticed Trex is mentioned all over the place so im assuming here that they have been in the bussines of creating helis for a long time and probably know what they are doing to provide a great product even tho it might be a bit high priced. So just getting a feel for what you all think about the Trex Helis and then any other recomendations for a 6ch Heli. Note i have a 3d Heli sitting here waiting for when the time comes, i have the Falcon 3D, got it cheap on ebay even after fixing his crash which cost about 50 bucks i still came out around 30 bucks cheaper then buying the heli new.  |
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Post by Solitaire on Apr 22, 2009 1:46:55 GMT -6
hey guys just wondering when i finally get into 6ch i would like to get into a 400 or bigger heli... Note i have a 3d Heli sitting here waiting for when the time comes, i have the Falcon 3D...  Isn't the Falcon 3D a 400 class heli? |
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Post by McKrackin on Apr 22, 2009 17:35:43 GMT -6
The Align Trex is a tried and true heli.
I fly them myself and absolutely love them.
Right now it's a Trex 500 from Align.
I have had a few Trex clones that were very good helis.
The Trex design has been around for a long time.
They appear to have short lived pattents and get cloned about one year after release so clones are pretty current designs.
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Post by BTCat on Apr 22, 2009 18:57:28 GMT -6
The Align Trex is a tried and true heli. I fly them myself and absolutely love them. Right now it's a Trex 500 from Align. I have had a few Trex clones that were very good helis. The Trex design has been around for a long time. They appear to have short lived pattents and get cloned about one year after release so clones are pretty current designs. Or maybe really bad patent attorneys. I have wondered how companies get away with cloning them so easily. Good for me, though. Helps get me hooked until I can work up to the real thing. |
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Post by coffinsnail on Apr 22, 2009 20:00:47 GMT -6
im not sure about the falcon 3d being a 400 size heli it might be, so then i would say i want 500-600 lol ....
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Post by McKrackin on Apr 22, 2009 20:04:11 GMT -6
A Falcon 3D is a 400.
Around 288mm blades = 400
Around 325mm blades = 450
Around 425mm blades = 500
And just plain big = 600 ;D
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Post by coffinsnail on Apr 22, 2009 22:05:52 GMT -6
I want just plain big then WOO WHO....
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Post by 19000rpm on Apr 23, 2009 6:44:12 GMT -6
The Falcon 3D is definitely a 400 size heli as Mc says. Same size as the G2/Walkera 36B.
On the patent thing: If a manufacturer has a patent and can identify a shipment coming into the country with a copied product the manufacturer can contact customs and they will seize the shipment and send it to the manufacturer holding the patent. That puts the patent holder in a very good position. They can then negotiate with the copier for compensation for the shipment, simply destroy the shipment, sell the contents back to the copier or even sell it themselves as a cloned product. Harley Davidson has done this many times.
Align changes their designs to maintain a leadership position even if the patent hasn't expired.
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Post by BTCat on Apr 23, 2009 21:11:05 GMT -6
The Falcon 3D is definitely a 400 size heli as Mc says. Same size as the G2/Walkera 36B. On the patent thing: If a manufacturer has a patent and can identify a shipment coming into the country with a copied product the manufacturer can contact customs and they will seize the shipment and send it to the manufacturer holding the patent. That puts the patent holder in a very good position. They can then negotiate with the copier for compensation for the shipment, simply destroy the shipment, sell the contents back to the copier or even sell it themselves as a cloned product. Harley Davidson has done this many times. Align changes their designs to maintain a leadership position even if the patent hasn't expired. Happy landings That's interesting info, 19k. I'll have to mull that over a little |
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Post by kiwi1080 on Apr 24, 2009 8:50:15 GMT -6
Even though Align stuff is more expensive, they definitely make quality stuff. As some people have mentioned in other threads, many other heli's and parts are clones of align, but the motors, ESC, frames, and heads on the align stuff just beat everything else hands down in my opinion. Since I got my T-rex 450 and started flying it properly I have increased my skill a lot as it just flies so sweeeeeeeeet. If you are gonna invest in a decent 450-600 class then go Align if you can I say. Either that or an EXI and then change out parts as you go.
On another note, the weather up hear is fan-freakin-tastic!! Sunny and calm. Been at the park across the street from my place already this morning with my 450, flew 2 batteries and practicing my stall turns and generally pissing off the squirrels ;D Bring on summer I say!!!!
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Post by McKrackin on Apr 24, 2009 14:43:39 GMT -6
On another note, the weather up hear is fan-freakin-tastic!! Sunny and calm. Been at the park across the street from my place already this morning with my 450, flew 2 batteries and practicing my stall turns and generally pissing off the squirrels ;D Bring on summer I say!!!! Yeah,here to dammit  My radio is still in the wrong state. Oh well.I'll just have to drink a whole bunch this weekend. Bottoms up ;D |
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Post by dubehigh on Apr 24, 2009 14:49:56 GMT -6
A Falcon 3D is a 400. Around 288mm blades = 400 Around 325mm blades = 450 Around 425mm blades = 500 And just plain big = 600 ;D and alot of $$$ do your reserch on what it going to cost in the end, or be stuck for a while like me on the swift.$$$$$$ |
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Post by Tony on Apr 24, 2009 15:22:30 GMT -6
and alot of $$$ do your reserch on what it going to cost in the end, or be stuck for a while like me on the swift.$$$$$$ Several heli guys I have talked to at the LHS have said that, once you pass the 500 class electric, it is cheaper in the long run to go nitro. Not sure why. |
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Post by akphill on Apr 24, 2009 16:33:48 GMT -6
Heres my two cents Think thunder tiger 50 rtf series saw one at the lhs you can get them in either power sources all u have to put on is the tail while i was looking it over i ran into a flight instructor for rc helicopters and he said mind you this is hearsay on this part that this heli will fly as soon as you put the tail on comes with radio and all he lots of good to say for this one thunder tiger raptor rtf they wanted an amazing price of $600.00 bucks for it its supposed to have top of the line electronics with it I'm seriously thinking about getting one for myself
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Post by 19000rpm on Apr 24, 2009 16:43:57 GMT -6
According to a friend whose been in the hobby biz awhile; Thunder Tiger used to be "the" heli before Align.
Now here's the bad news re: Align...LHS dealers hate them. They are a real pain in the arse to deal with on customer service and parts info and parts updating. He'll be stocking the new Thunder Tigers and cutting back on the Aligns.
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