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Post by hunter on Jan 3, 2010 0:36:58 GMT -6
Hi a few i like and not sure what one to go for. I have not been into this hobby long (now hooked) but this applies to many things i have come across, and that is starting from most expensive because in my view you get what you pay for. I just went to bananahobby.com, i like this site its where i ordered my rc cars from over the years. and for over 2 years looked at the plane and heli section and wondered if i should try one. anyway. 1st.Biggest RTF 6 CH Century Swift 550 V3 www.bananahobby.com/1456.htmlThis is by far nuts. i want this one lol 2nd. we have the 9 CH Super Ninja 500 Pro. www.bananahobby.com/1664.html Its quite big aswell looks great 1100KV brushless motor 3rd.Esky 6 CH Yellow Honey Bee King 2 Special Carbon Edition CCPM www.bananahobby.com/1576.htmlNow this one i love, the cnc anodized head piece and all is cool. just great, the battery is only 11.1V 1500mah 3-Cell Li-Polymer compared to the Ninja's which is a staggering 22.2V 6S 3300mah 20C Lithium Polymer. ok that will do. the 3 top ones i could find on that site.. now the question folks is which one would you buy? and why? They are all great but bigger is better haha ;D
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Post by 19000rpm on Jan 3, 2010 8:30:33 GMT -6
Hunter, for a second heli I don't think anyone would recommend those as options. On the other hand, if you're just dreaming, the sky is the limit. ;D
And, only on rare occasions does anything fly great out of the box. Being RTF only means that all of the components are there. The pilot needs to set the heli up to get it to fly right. That's regardless of type, brand, size or cost.
Most of the guys on the forum flying 6ch fly 450, or larger, 500 or 600, Align, or Align clones, like The HK's or EXI's. A few have Swifts. Most like the Align clones because of cost. And, that they can upgrade them with Align parts.
And you're right, the bigger they are the better they fly. But, first you need to learn how to fly. Learning orientation is the first step and a coaxial, because of its inherent stability, is the easiest to learn that on. Then either a fixed pitch or CP. ;D
Happy landings
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Post by dubehigh on Jan 3, 2010 9:27:30 GMT -6
WELCOME HUNTER. i do own a swift 16 30. size Helli. they are a great Helli, but not yet for you. not right now. if you are looking to upgrade. stay with the coaxial. so you can learn the controls of how it all works.or invest in a simulator. but as far as the coaxial, big lama is the one you should get your hands on, but one problem with that Helli. it will need the canopy up grade. the fuselage is one piece. that sucks. www.rtf.com sells all upgrades for the big lama. good luck.
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Post by nunyabizniss34 on Jan 3, 2010 10:09:20 GMT -6
The first two are just awesome, the third one I'd stay away from. 19k is right in saying that few (if any) of us would recommend any of the three at this stage. However, if you are adamant about getting a 6 channel heli, then I would go with something like a Blue Ray from xheli. They are inexpensive, very popular and parts support is wide-spread. If you have questions about that particular heli, there are quite a few people on this forum that own one. Believe me, parts availability is a huge thing! Whatever you choose, we wish you luck. If I were you I would get a good sim like Clearview, Phoenix or Realflight and practice as much as you can. Best of luck to you!
Colin
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Post by BTCat on Jan 3, 2010 10:14:08 GMT -6
Ditto to all the above. I hear a lot of complaints about #3. The bling looks real nice, though.
My only word of advice is Get something cheap to crash. "Cheap" all depends on your personal economic pain tolerance, of course.
Then again, you might be like some of the guys here who transitioned into helis very quickly (Elk, among others).
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Post by Raygun on Jan 3, 2010 10:35:39 GMT -6
With all of walkera's draw backs the 180D does fly nice out of the box if you get the linkages on the flybar and on the swash plate to measure the same on both sides it fly's great. the tail motors go out fairly quick but for $15 RTF has a good solution for that. All in all if I had to do it over again I would start with this bird instead of a coaxial but I do love the coaxials to you can learn good basic knowledge from them. Hope this helps Ray
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Post by elkmaster01 on Jan 3, 2010 13:44:33 GMT -6
Hunter,,,,,if I'm reading between the lines here,,,you are looking for the best product with the least hassle and you want to start at the top of the food chain. Nothing wrong with that,,as long as you understand what you are getting into. The EASIEST way to learn how to fly a heli is to get a large heli (way more stable) with a stabilization system. Thats what I did. I learned to fly helis on a T-Rex 600 ESP with the Helicommand stabilization system. It is just plain stupid easy to fly. BUT,,,,I studied long and hard,,,I used a flight simulator,,,,I built the heli myself. But once I got in the air,,,I progressed so rapidly, it would make your head spin. Inside of two weeks,,I was doing mild 3D and having a blast. But it was very pricey. You can go to a place like this; stores.ebay.com/The-InetHobby_Custom-RTF-Helicopters_W0QQLHQ5fSellerWithStoreZ1QQLHQ5fTitleDescZ1QQ_fsubZ2QQ_sasiZ1QQ_sidZ113546682QQ_trksidZp4634Q2ec0Q2em14?_pgn=1They build custon helis,,,test fly them,,and send you everything in one piece with TX and everything. You can contact them to install and program a Helicommand also. This is the extreme method,,if money is no object,,it is also the easiest and quickest. Just giving you another point of view. It worked for me!
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Post by Dave on Jan 3, 2010 15:38:32 GMT -6
Well I guess it is my turn now ;D Hunter What each and everyone has said above is good advise. Not a one of them has not said what I would have not said, they just may have said it a little better. Each and every person that gets into this hobby grows at their own pace, some slow and like Elk, some fast. You know yourself better than any of us here at RC Heli Talk, but we will learn you if you hang around with us very long. About the only thing that I will play a second to is the sim......get one if you don't already have one and spend some time on it before you make the purchase. Even though it is not the real thing some of them are very close and will give you a good ideal of what you are getting into. Stick with the heli that you have, it appears to be a good one and maybe as a next step after some practice on the sim jump to a fixed pitch like the Honey Bee. And always remember...if you have any question be sure to ask cause as you can see these guys love to give advice. Dave
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Post by hunter on Jan 3, 2010 16:02:30 GMT -6
Hello everyone and wow thank you for quick reply's.
I totally agree with everyone. The simulator is the way i am heading because i figured if i learned my controls and feel for how it flies first i should have a better angle of approach.
One thing. I have learned very fast to fly the GT3 i was even flying in moderate wind even reversed and side on. The problem was the stupid wind gets a bit to much here because due to my area on the coast (lots of coastal winds) usually calm in mornings and before night though, And i dont have anything close near me indoors, But what i have is a model air field club near me and many many fields that are massive flat low soft grass.
I took my GT3 to a field once and i was ok but the wind did make it hard to fly forward when facing the wind. I guess i just want something for my area to take on that wind instead of waiting weeks and weeks to fly cause it does not stop much here. =(
Your right about the going to a fixed pitch to. but right now i was going to buy a gaming PC and i have a fair amount of money to use if i switch the money to a heli loll. I thought if im going to spend that much money i want to get everything i can.
ps. i am going to be here a long long time because i Like being here. oh and yes i am doing a either a bold or stupid move going straight to a 6ch lol perhaps a cheaper one ill get like that blueray.
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Post by hunter on Jan 3, 2010 16:14:14 GMT -6
Ok taking into account what people have told me then does anyone know what coaxial or fixed pitch can fly in winds of 10knots?. 10 knots is calm here.
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Post by dubehigh on Jan 3, 2010 16:36:20 GMT -6
none, they dont have the head speed. but you can fly the big lama in the house as i do.
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Post by hunter on Jan 3, 2010 16:57:29 GMT -6
Hmm. my house is not big enough to fly the GT3. sigh i dont know what to do
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Post by Dave on Jan 3, 2010 17:12:24 GMT -6
Hunter The BR is a good choice if you intend to go this route. There are a lot of places that carry spare parts and mod parts for it. The choice of the sim is good. I would suggest lots of time on it before taking on the BR. If I were you I might go with the all plastic version first and as time goes on start switching over to the CNC parts, this way you can cut cost on crash repairs in the beginning. In either case get another good gyro such as the GY401 and a good servo for the tail and also go ahead and get a good tx for it...the DX6i or the DX7 and their rx. Good luck and be wise Dave
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Post by hunter on Jan 3, 2010 17:35:04 GMT -6
Is there a BR with a Tail shaft driven rotor?
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Post by Dave on Jan 3, 2010 18:14:10 GMT -6
Is there a BR with a Tail shaft driven rotor? Not that I know of, just belt drive. Dave
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