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Post by fireguzzi on Mar 7, 2010 9:03:25 GMT -6
like I am to planes, what would you get first? I know nothing.  So what would be a good first plane for a small area like a back yard? And what is all this park flier, foamie, edf stuff mean? |
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Post by dubehigh on Mar 7, 2010 9:14:24 GMT -6
this is what i have to say, imo i am not new to planes, just reborn. do like i did and bt did get the super cub from hobbyzone. its the fastest trainer to learn on. again imo.
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Post by r/c basher on Mar 7, 2010 10:04:36 GMT -6
this is what i have to say, imo i am not new to planes, just reborn. do like i did and bt did get the super cub from hobbyzone. its the fastest trainer to learn on. again imo. And me. ;D |
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Post by Gabe on Mar 7, 2010 10:40:52 GMT -6
Welcome to the forum fireguzzi! It's good to see your intesest in planes. Let me try to explain the basics: A "Foamie" is an rc plane made from either Depron or EPP foam. Depron isn't nearly as crash resistant at EPP foam, which is why most of the major companies are making their models from EPP foam. Foam is extremely light and is easily glued back together using a little CA Glue (hobby glue). "Parkfliers" is a term used to describe any plane that can be flown at your local park and that does not require an asphalt or concrete runway. Parkzone is a phenomenal company with a wide range of planes for every experience level. All of their planes are considered "Parkfliers" and they are all EPP foamies as well. EDF vs Prop Planes: Prop planes are great for beginners and expert pilots. The location of the wing (high wing vs low wing design) and the size of the motor will determine the user experience level. A high wing plane such as the Super Cub, provides excellent stability for a noob to become comfortable with - and was in fact my first plane. EDF stands for Electric Ducted Fan. This is an electric version of the turbine engine and the unit provide some serious thrust and speed for the plane. These are NOT beginner planes. Everyone warned me but I got one anyway as a noob- and I wrecked it right away. As a first model plane, I would highly suggest the Parkzone Supercub. The only downfall is that it does not have ailerons, only a rudder, and you may outgrow it pretty fast - especially if you have some experience with heli's. As a step up, you may consider the E-flite Apprentice. It is a full four channel plane with ailerons and rudder. I've included links to both planes below: Parkzone Super Cub: secure.hobbyzone.com/HBZ7300.htmlE-Flite Apprentice: www.e-fliterc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=EFL2725With regards to flying in your back yard, it really can't be done unless you are really really good or have a model like th Parkzone Micro P-51, but that's a more advanced plane. You will need to venture to a park or a football field to give yourself enough room for takeoff and landing - these are the two most difficult parts of flying planes. The takeoff is usually botched by not having a clear flight path and smacking an obstacle, while the landing is botched by underestimating the amount of space required for a landing. As you get better, you may be able to hand launch your planes and land in much smaller and confined areas. Finally, if you've never flown planes or heli's, I would highly recommend a good simulator for your computer. I'm a fan of Real Flight by Great Planes, and a lot of the boys here like Phoenix Simulator. It's an invaluable tool for rc fliers. I hope this helps your choice in planes. |
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Post by akent on Mar 7, 2010 12:21:56 GMT -6
Good stuff, Gabe!
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Post by dubehigh on Mar 7, 2010 12:27:28 GMT -6
great stuff gabe, i just dint lkie to type all that much ;D sorry basher for got you to.  |
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Post by r/c basher on Mar 7, 2010 12:37:51 GMT -6
great stuff gabe, i just dint lkie to type all that much ;D sorry basher for got you to. Thats cool. You might want to check out the ultra-micro j3 cub. Its a 3 channel airplane. That I think is similar to the super cub. Just a lot smaller. I think its aimed toward the beginner if space is a problem. |
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Post by fireguzzi on Mar 7, 2010 13:09:54 GMT -6
Awesome Gabe, thanks for all the info. That was very helpful. Thats cool. You might want to check out the ultra-micro j3 cub. Its a 3 channel airplane. That I think is similar to the super cub. Just a lot smaller. I think its aimed toward the beginner if space is a problem. I am looking at that one really hard. I wonder if it will bind to the mcx/msr tx i have... looks to be identical. Would be nice too because I have the chargers and batteries. The bigger cub is not too much more though...And there are many places to go fly around here.There's even an airfield about 2 minutes from my house. Just don't know if you have to be a member or something to go fly there. On the other hand rcdbutz has a pretty good deal on a hbfp..... Plane , little plane, or heli? Oh decisions decisions..... |
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Post by BTCat on Mar 7, 2010 13:56:56 GMT -6
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Post by 19000rpm on Mar 7, 2010 17:29:03 GMT -6
Super Cub and Phoenix sim |
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Post by fireguzzi on Mar 7, 2010 18:21:23 GMT -6
Super Cub and Phoenix sim Sure i"ll do that. you got a couple hundred to loan me? I had the FMS sim on my old pc but for some reason it will not load on my new macbook. And I do have windows installed on it too. And i did fly the planes a lot but I'm sure I could use some more practice. Speaking of sims, anyone know of a free one or decent demo for mac? |
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Post by Gabe on Mar 7, 2010 19:59:36 GMT -6
I don't think there are any. FMS was as close to free as it got. If you did ok on the sim before with planes, you may consider going with a plane that has ailerons like th apprentice. Or, if you are comfortable with doing the mods on the Cub, she's a good little plane.
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Post by fireguzzi on Mar 8, 2010 8:36:52 GMT -6
ok, ordered the ultra micro j3 cub. Hopefully it will treat me ok as a beginner. I got the BNF version and am about 98.873% sure that it will bind to my mcx/msr tx. If not then I will just have to save for a dx6i.  Got on the fms site and finally got the sim working on windows, so now I can practice before it gets here. The plane secure.hobbyzone.com/search/PKZ3980.html?media=image |
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Post by dubehigh on Mar 8, 2010 9:30:34 GMT -6
yea i got that one to, not much smaller then the sc, there both 3 chnl you will have fun with it. i got my j3 cub from exceed $59.00  the hole fleet in the man cave  |
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Post by Gabe on Mar 11, 2010 22:25:54 GMT -6
The great thing about the ultra micros is that you can easily hand launch them. Hold the remote in the right hand, the plane in your left, throttle up with your mouth (seriously, that's how we all to it - or your chin), and give her a light toss. Be ready with your hand on the right stick for a little back elevator and control of the ailerons. Should be a cake walk.
Take it to a park the first time so you have a little room to work with. They need more room than you would think.
Let us know how it goes!
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So what would be a good first plane for a small area like a back yard? 
