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Post by Raygun on May 26, 2012 15:36:33 GMT -6
With those second motors on 4's are not going to give you that much more rpm than the others on 3's the one's you have are a fairly heavy motor so the windings should be able to take the voltage and the rpm is not that high so the windings should not come apart at that low of an rpm. I think you would be better off with 4's on the motors you have.. Ray
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Post by akphill on May 26, 2012 23:12:03 GMT -6
Interesting I messed up again hu geez I am hoping they will spin about the same but with bigger props for more lift they are matched to 10x4.5 props Guess will have some experiments going on shortly
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Post by akphill on Jun 2, 2012 10:49:22 GMT -6
Ok have the new motors installed Exactly the same results as with the other motors.
so I asked over at rcgroups about adjusting rpm on the ff board and 3 days later I finally get a answer that there is an firmware adjustment for this problem a few others have had the same problem
but I got tired of waiting for an answer and installed thee kk board and set it up to the tx so now I have full throttle range wow what a difference
LOL so I was adjusting the gyros and the number 3 motor just quit.
The esc over heated well now I am back to waiting for new esc to show up ordered 4 of them plus a programming card for this particular esc
Question The motors are 4s capable the new esc's are 4s capable the KK board gets its power from the esc's 5 volts. Am I right in that I still can run this Quad on 4s battery and not hurt the board
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Post by Raygun on Jun 2, 2012 17:51:07 GMT -6
The esc regulators should control the voltage to 5V but having four esc's,,, each regulator would be fighting the other I would think you would have to remove the center red wire from each ESC except one otherwise you may start burning up esc's. I still think you could run your first motors on fours and be just fine. Ray
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Post by akent on Jun 2, 2012 20:07:45 GMT -6
All these manufacturers need to do is place a series diode (low dropout type) that might cost 15 cents in series with each BEC output from each ESC. That way, you basically have redundant power, if you are running all of your ESC's from one common board. Just a thought. Kent
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Post by Raygun on Jun 2, 2012 20:27:04 GMT -6
Your right Kent that would work nice that would give you extra power in case one regulator started to fail good thought could you give me a link to a diode that would work? I would like to try that.. Ray ;D
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Post by akphill on Jun 15, 2012 0:37:46 GMT -6
Well it is time for another update to this drama called a Xquad I have put my fourth board onto this frame have put 4 new esc's on this frame and have put 4 different motors on this frame I was really getting discouraged with no success. But fourth time is a charm here had a little luck finally Here is some pics I have a maiden video but it wont be uploaded till tomorrow
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Post by 19000rpm on Jun 15, 2012 5:01:12 GMT -6
Persistence pays off! Nice looking Quad! How does it fly?
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Post by akphill on Jun 15, 2012 5:52:02 GMT -6
Thanks Flys like it needs a lot of adjusting yet still chasing it around You will see in the video when it finishes uploading
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Post by Raygun on Jun 15, 2012 11:53:25 GMT -6
Nice Phill what motors and board did you end up using??? Ray
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Post by akphill on Jun 15, 2012 21:28:11 GMT -6
I used the 30 amp esc's from hobbywing the motors are the ones I posted earlier and the board is a KK blueboard and a 3s 2200 20c lipo with the esc's set to nicad battery
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Post by akphill on Jun 15, 2012 21:36:25 GMT -6
Well here is the first maiden yes it still needs a lot of adjusting
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Post by Raygun on Jun 16, 2012 15:08:17 GMT -6
I see a control issue here Phill,,, The problem is you have an exact replica of Madonna's Boob on top when the nipple gets cold in the prop draft it cause's it to dip and roll. The problem could be fixed with a D cup.... Ray
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Post by 19000rpm on Jun 16, 2012 16:49:04 GMT -6
I disagree. Madonna is only a C.
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Post by akent on Jun 16, 2012 19:36:00 GMT -6
I like that nipple! For size, remember that more than a mouthful is wasted! Nice stuff, Akphill!! Raygun, you need a Schottky type diode with 0.5v drop. Some have less. The current rating of the diode should be about double the current you want to push. Something like these in an axial part: www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Vishay-Semiconductors/SB540A-E3-54/?qs=u91jd7aysvPBbdqPu8xFAvtzBDyYPpCj8JpAT3EZV3c%3dThese drop 0.5v and have a 5 amp continuous, 150 amp surge at 40 volts. One of these in series with each ESC power lead would allow you to have redundant power to your receiver. If you set each ESC to 6v output, you would then have 5.5v to the receiver, which would be safe for most things. If the ESC's are not adjustable and set to 5v, then the output would be similar to NiMh packs. Oh, sorry, these diodes cost about 35 cents! Kent
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