McKrackin
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Post by McKrackin on Mar 25, 2010 22:18:05 GMT -6
Got my Plasti-Blades today.They are awesome. It even tipped over once and didn't even leave a scuff mark on the blades. They fly fast too. Love'm...  |
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Post by cubusaddendum on Mar 26, 2010 2:36:30 GMT -6
What are you saying? The left stick now controls cyclic and the right stick controls throttle and rudder? What exactly is it doing? Inspection reveals: Left vertical stick is elevator + throttle Right vertical stick is collective Right horizontal stick is aileron No idea if the rudder is Left stick horizontal because I daren't power the thing up like this.  I rebound it to the stock radio and everything is fine again. |
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Post by cubusaddendum on Mar 27, 2010 4:46:49 GMT -6
OK I have it figured out for the DX6i. Use some discretion according to personal preference.  SETUP LIST REVERSE RUDD-R and PITC-R, everything else -N SWASH TYPE CCPM 120 THRO CUTACT D/R COMBIINH ADJUST LISTD/R&EXPO Aile 0: 100% + 20% expo Elev 0: 100% + 20% expo Rudd 0: 100% + 20% expo Aile 1: 70% + 30% expo Elev 1: 70% + 30% expo Rudd 1: 80% + 30% expo TRAVEL ADJAll set to 100% SUB TRIM All set to 0 GYRO0 and 50% (because I'm using it to control a CoPilot II, whereby it's setting the gyro gain to 35%) THRO CUR NORM L - 0% 2 - 41.5% 3 - 70.5% 4 - 92.5% H - 100% STUNT L - 100% 2 - 88.5% 3 - 75% 4 - 88.5% H - 100% HOLD 0% PITCH CUR NORM L - 42% 2 - 56.5% 3 - 71% 4 - 85.5% H - 100% STUNT L - 0% 2 - 25% 3 - 50% 4 - 75% H - 100% HOLD L - 0% 2 - 25% 3 - 50% 4 - 75% H - 100% SWASH MIXAile +60% Elev +60% Pitch -35% MIX 1 and 2 INH REVO MIX All 0% |
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Post by cubusaddendum on Mar 28, 2010 11:36:21 GMT -6
Just been flying around the park today and made some small edits, so I've updated this post to reflect the changes.
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Post by Solitaire on Mar 28, 2010 14:18:36 GMT -6
What are you saying? The left stick now controls cyclic and the right stick controls throttle and rudder? What exactly is it doing? Inspection reveals: Left vertical stick is elevator + throttle Right vertical stick is collective Right horizontal stick is aileron No idea if the rudder is Left stick horizontal because I daren't power the thing up like this. I rebound it to the stock radio and everything is fine again. I can see how it was confusing with the DX6i. Just one servo running backwards throws the whole swash mix out of whack. Good that you've identified the problem, though. |
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Post by McKrackin on Mar 28, 2010 14:44:24 GMT -6
In you swash mix.....Why aren't all three numbers the same?
It is three identicle servos,moving identicle amounts in identicle directions.
Why are the numbers not identicle?
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Post by cubusaddendum on Mar 28, 2010 14:48:17 GMT -6
Inspection reveals: Left vertical stick is elevator + throttle Right vertical stick is collective Right horizontal stick is aileron No idea if the rudder is Left stick horizontal because I daren't power the thing up like this. I rebound it to the stock radio and everything is fine again. I can see how it was confusing with the DX6i. Just one servo running backwards throws the whole swash mix out of whack. Good that you've identified the problem, though. Happy to share. Accordingly to johnsma22 on rcg, posting radio set-up information is "completely meaningless".  LOL another rcg classic. |
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Post by cubusaddendum on Mar 28, 2010 14:56:43 GMT -6
In you swash mix.....Why aren't all three numbers the same? It is three identicle servos,moving identicle amounts in identicle directions. Why are the numbers not identicle? I fully acknowledge the oddness of it. The CCPM servos weren't moving with the same magnitude when moving the collective control. The servo on channel 6 was moving too much and creating an elevator-like response. This must be something about the default travel you get when you initialize a new heli model memory on the DX6i. I checked out some other people's set-ups for the DX6i online and they ended doing the same as me, which proves that there isn't anything unusual going on with my radio. You on the other hand have a DX7 right? I'm guessing the 120 CCPM implentation is subtly different to the DX6i, which is why I got such a weird response with your settings. The bottom line is that I'm very happy with this set-up now, as today's flights have proven, so I'm going to stop wondering and move on. |
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Post by McKrackin on Mar 28, 2010 17:20:44 GMT -6
I asked for a reason.That's all. These settings make it work right. That would have been enough. I asked because I see that same cut and paste set of numbers on every forum I go to and it looks like people are just parrotting it. I even saw the same thing for people recommending DX7 settings. I had mine set up before I saw any of this thank god or I would have had a mess. I'm glad it flys right for you and you should stop wondering and keep on keepin on  |
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Post by McKrackin on Mar 29, 2010 1:59:29 GMT -6
I just found out the servos on the SR are rebuildable and Helidirect has the gear sets for under $3....Hmmm.Cool.
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Post by cubusaddendum on Mar 29, 2010 2:32:22 GMT -6
Ernie, I sense trepidation in your writing.  We're cool bruv. You and I both got our radios working on our own, and then published our data to help others get 95% of the way there. I asked because I see that same cut and paste set of numbers on every forum I go to and it looks like people are just parrotting it. That's probably because there's very few solutions for the swash-plate mix. When you get to know me a little better you'll realize that I'm scientist by training (acoustician actually) and don't make a habit of quoting data unless I've checked it out for myself! What happened on rcg was that after we went to the trouble of publishing our results, those "experts" on that thread immediately rubbished them as "useless" and went on to confuse the issue by spouting off the need for literal pitch values. I just got annoyed because for all their expertise they didn't manage to state any useful data of there own, which makes me suspect they haven't got their alternative radios to work. You're right, I'm going to stop now and enjoy my Blade SR . Thanks for the assistance. |
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Post by cubusaddendum on Mar 29, 2010 2:45:53 GMT -6
I just found out the servos on the SR are rebuildable and Helidirect has the gear sets for under $3....Hmmm.Cool. By all accounts they're actually not bad servos, those S75's. I bought a pack of eight from a supplier last year when I built a foamy Extra300. Needless to say, when I got my Blade SR I was quite chuffed that I already had spares! |
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Post by McKrackin on Mar 29, 2010 11:43:44 GMT -6
I won't need any spares since I can rebuild the ones I have for $3 in about 4 minutes each.
If I already had spares it would be cool.
The reason I mentioned "Cut and Paste" is because of all the major forums these settings are on,the spelling,punctuation,layout,abbreviation,accent and everything else is identical.
Like a throttle curve....20 people all independently came up with 41.5% for point two and 70.5% for point three?That's not a linear curve.It's pretty unique but everyone in the world woke up with the same numbers in mind?
And having different numbers in the swash mix?Some positive and some negative?
More specifically,+60,+60 and -35??Everyone posts that combo.
Hmmm....mine are all three the same number and all three negative since the swash on the SR works backwards to the popular norm.
Pitch curves that are a far cry from linear but everyone on every forum came up with an identical set of values?Please.
No trepidation here.Only contempt for a set of numbers that don't have a chance in hell at working on my heli and radio or anyone else with a similar combo.
No personal offense at all.
I respect your opinion and your willingness to share.
I am willing to bet that your radio is not set up that way though.
That is a cut and paste that originated at Runryder and was copied within minutes to every heli forum in the world.
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Post by cubusaddendum on Mar 29, 2010 12:00:24 GMT -6
Like a throttle curve....20 people all independently came up with 41.5% for point two and 70.5% for point three?That's not a linear curve.It's pretty unique but everyone in the world woke up with the same numbers in mind? Hehehe..... You realize that that throttle curve is entirely my ultra-personal preference? I have it the same way on my experimental coaxial, which I derived over a year ago. It just means that once I posted those settings here it got Googled and copied around ad infinitum. They didn't even change my text formatting? Lazy gits. That's hilarious. LOL "Unique" you say? I think we should start calling it the "Bantin-type throttle curve" so that I can get famous. You in on this? By the way, my name is Robert Bantin. |
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Post by McKrackin on Mar 29, 2010 12:19:41 GMT -6
Don't get me wrong here.
I'm not saying you aren't the OP,only that the numbers are the same everywhere I go.
Bantin-type would be a good name for them.lol...
There needs to be a warning that these numbers might drastically reduce fore and aft control in some cases.In cases like mine it may even cause constant and unstopable forward looping.lol....Those settings would have me at full forward elevator every time I apply some throttle.
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LOL another rcg classic. 
We're cool bruv.